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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 10, 2012 10:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

Well...okay, I exaggerate slightly; but had to chime in to agree with your pt, re: reggae = good; disco = bad...and, though I know you and Rose and a few others were just a tad late to this, in 78 it was HUGE to all of us. It was the first "crisis for HEADs" (ie, I am accepting many of you would view I have clearly had a more recent "crisis" in rejecting/minimizing post 71 DEAD, etc., etc.).

We uniformly went from our clear cut dogma ("the DEAD are anti-establishment; the DEAD do everything, incl record making to the benefit of their fans; the DEAD represent the antithesis of all things 'pop', etc") stance in arguing with any and all takers to a crisis mode of "uh-oh...how do we DEFEND this??! The DEAD actually are in some way shape or form, responsive to this EVIL influence??!!!"

It was the beginning of the end for me, though I did at the time continue going to shows, thinking they were great, and still better than all other bands for the reasons outlined above, but it really gave us all a big fat SHOCK.

I know, I know; you all can pt out how responsive they had been to so many influences prior, and this is what made them America's Band, etc; but, again, in my clear cut, black and white, nice & tidy world, THERE are LIMITS, and LINES that may not be crossed...that was one of them.

Like Bob Dylan, I am older now, but on this one issue, if anything, I've hardened in my view.

;)

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Poster: snori Date: Jan 10, 2012 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

It was hard to defend 'our band' from people (mostly heavy metal fans in my experience) when they decided to have a go at the disco sound. But I've also had to bear sneering such as 'that Country and Westerm band you like' as well.

On the positive side at least they steered well clear of the early 70s Glam Rock fashion. Imagine Jerry dressed like Gary Glitter - on second thoughts - don't.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

Ha! Yeah, for us West Coasters it seemed, the country rock biz was cool cause everyone loved the sound of the Byrds/FBBros/GParsons, blah, blah, blah. Or, CSN&Y with Jer's pedal steel coming thru loud and clear on TYCWell...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 10, 2012 2:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

And wasn't the trade off for the pedal steel some harmony coaching for Workingman's Beauty? Sounds like a good deal, huh?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

It does; and, if it catches your attn, brings you around now and again, that's just a bonus...I haven't posted so much for a long time--must be the change in my medication schedule.

Or, my reading of a three volume Monty tome (Nigel Hamilton; somewhat repetitive...he has been resurrected, with our US generals, future prez and all, coming off poorly, but Monty is King once again). Don't know how I missed it til now, but I love reading such indepth accts of WWII figures, and Monty needed a sympathetic review, for certain. He was afterall, well liked by his men, even the US grunts that served under him.

Not sure what this has to do with anything...except the meds and some bed rest!

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Poster: snori Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

The 1965-69 me would not have beem seen dead listening to C & W. That was corny, old-fashioned rubbish sung by the likes of Jim Reeves, or a hoard of nasal whiney women. We were the new, the modern, and with Sgt Pepper, Axis, Piper, Disraeli et al we would consign it to deserved oblivion. Even now I can't listen to El Paso.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 11, 2012 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

At least Weir was listening to some w/ MAMU & BIODTL and Jerry w/In the Jailhouse Now (Rare Cuts). I can't believe that at least some of the music wasn't seeping into them after Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions.

http://tinyurl.com/6q57wg8, complete w/ kazoos, but who is playing banjo?


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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 11, 2012 6:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

Oh yeah--I see what you mean; defn not the "typical stuff", but JCash was cool, so there was a bit of "cross-over" perhaps? But, it was mainly what we called "country-rock", like NRPS, that began to make C&W seem okay. Also, with the Arizona-California area, real westerns, like M&MU, or BigIron, seemed to fit...

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Poster: snori Date: Jan 11, 2012 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Defenders of the DEAD taken down a notch...

Actually I've been reprogramed now - I took up with someone who is a Gram & Em fan. I can live with that.